Show Notes for Episode 81

Episode 81 - Transcript

Do The Swim


Hello to all you unconventional conventions. Welcome to Rocky Talkie. I'm Jacob. I'm Aaron and I'm all right guys. Now, before we get started with the show, we're gonna do the thing. We're gonna take a moment. Ask each other, how was your week? Did you get up to anything fun, Jacob. What were you up to this week? Oh. Oh boy. I was in a show this past weekend uh at the Duplex Club in downtown Manhattan. The show was of course a Rocky horror show with live vocals produced by who is known to some as Meg Beaver Hausen and to others as Meg Fierro and Aaron Tidwell and Will Remmers. Um It was a great show. Had a blast. Was there with a lot of my Rocky friends and I've been playing this game called Muck. It's a gag. I enjoy it. You should download it. It's free. Aaron Meg. How are y'all's weeks? Pretty good here. Pretty good. Obviously, a lot of scrambling for that uh that show that we had. Um I guess it's technically not Rocky. I've been picking up costume pieces for uh auditioning for R K O K. Just got a couple of those in the mail about ready to get out my sewing machine and, uh, go to town on some of those. I got pants that need him. I got lots of stuff to do there and, uh, getting all of my pieces in order for R K O pride coming up. Uh, we're gonna be Meg and I, along with a couple of other people are gonna be up at R K O uh for their pride parade in the big show that they're doing up there. Super excited for that next week. And uh yeah, that's, that's what I've been up to sweetie. How about you? What have I done? Well? Um ok, just this past week. Uh we got to hang out with one of our old friends that we haven't seen in a long time that man, Mike came to Manhattan to hang out with us. We got to have dinner with him and our friend Phil who's been on the show. Hi, Phil and a bunch of old school, New York City. Rocky hor cast members. It was a lot of fun. We went to a restaurant called John's on 12th Street right by our theater, which is apparently like a place where they used to go back when we were at this theater a million years ago. And then we got to have like a double date kind of with Mad Man and his new wife Jen. That was a lot of fun. And Yeah, we just got to hang and like, shoot the shit and talk about how everything was going with the cast. And sweetie, you and you and Madman nerd out a whole bunch over like rocky collectible stuff. That was absolutely, it was so much fun. It felt, it felt like sitting in his uh old apartment down downtown when he lived there. Uh just rifling through the boxes of Rocky stuff. It was so much fun to get to hang, but I couldn't believe it. It's been fucking six years since we saw him so long. So it was really, really nice to get to catch up and just hang like we used to fucking hang all the time and now he's been gone but he's back, he'll be back around. Yeah, it was, it was good. It was a fun time. All right. Uh Now that, that's out of the way, let's dive into our first segment first up in global News, I've got a date that's a fun update for you oldsters out there on the whereabouts of my bear bear, dude. We told you, you got to take those cameras out of his house. It's like eight different kinds of illegal. Um First of all, nobody is ever going to find those, they just never think to look there. Second of all, this isn't about any alleged cameras that may or may not exist. This is about Galaxy Con. It's about to return to its home. In Raley, North Carolina, I R L. Oh, damn. That's pretty neat. Those Galaxy Con events are usually online. Raleigh. It's Raleigh, North Carolina and yes, Galaxy Con is a festival of fandom featuring celebrities, artists, writers, entertainers, cosplayers and lots, lots more. They've been almost exclusively online since the Al Vodka. Although they were in Raleigh around this time last year, which was a big deal for the city after being shuttered for so long. Back in the summer of 2021 even Raleigh's mayor Mary Anne Baldwin got high over Galaxy Con stating that the convention quote represented the biggest annual event to return to our city after the pandemic. We are so thankful that this celebration of creativity and pop culture continues to call our city home and brings together local and far flung fans to experience Raleigh the 2022 Galaxy Con will be held at the Ray La Convention Center from July 28 through the 31st. And we have one hell of a line up for all the nerds who attend. Some of the highlights include a Smallville reunion with the actors who played Clark Kent Lois Lane and Lex and Lionel plus William Shatner, A K A Captain Kirk and Brad Spiner who played data will be there for the Trekkies. And of course, my bear. Bear will be there there for me to from 501 ft across the convention center floor in the heart of Ray Yes. Yes. That too, if you're interested in learning more about the convention, maybe even buying yourself some tickets. There's tons of info about the guests, the events and all the other stuff that's going to be going down in Raleigh over at the website at Galaxy Con dot com. A full four day weekend VIP pass is currently available for the high, high cost of $325. Jesus. That's a lot for a convention. Oh, yeah. But in the best Disney fashion it comes with a fast pass which I assume means you get to cut the lines and shit. Plus you get like a swag bag and admission to all the con parties. So I mean that sounds like a good time. It's still a lot. Yeah, but I mean the, the non VIP four day passes for one of you broke ass plebs out there is significantly more reasonable $125. Does that make you feel better? I mean, kind of, but our con is five days and I heard a rumor that someone might be throwing a naked alien foam party in my hotel room. Does this con have a naked alien foam party? I don't, I don't think so. There are also one day passes available ranging from 30 to 60 bucks is the $30 ticket. The one for Thursday, that's at least a regular price, but it's still kind of a lot. I don't know, man. I can watch bear, bear in the comfort of my own Heidi hole at the back of my mom's linen closet for free. What? What? Huh? Who that man? Well, if, if you don't have a linen closet that somehow allows you visual access to the interior of Barry Bostick's home and would like to pay him a visit at Galaxy Con at Rala North Carolina. You can learn more about the con and shop for tickets all at their website. Again, that's Galaxy Con dot com, which we've got linked for you in our show notes, Raleigh, right. It's all fun and games here. Aaron. Oh, oh, it's Raleigh ha ha. But if we don't want to offend anyone, it is Ray and we respect the citizens of North Canada 100% next up in global news. Uh get your wallets out, gentlemen, because we've got some brand new, officially licensed Rocky Merch for you. And this time it's from a brand called Cavity Colors. Cavity Colors is a creepy apparel company that lets you make every day Halloween by creating collectible items that are just dripping in horror, nostalgia. Just like all of our listeners. The creators at Cavity Colors live for Halloween and horror all year long. And that's why their brand mission is to share their passion for all things spooky with each and every high quality item. They create the brand's creator, Aaron Crawford grew up on a steady diet of goosebumps books and metal music. He spent years doodling monsters and creepy shit, some of which he even posted to his myspace account. Oh man, I love that call back. Thank you. So after posting some of his art, Aaron was contacted by a local band who was in need of a T shirt designer. So he did what any good freelancer does. He taught himself Photoshop really fucking quick and started designing band merch, you know, T shirts, posters, CD packaging, that sort of thing in May of 2012, Aaron decided to start designing stuff to sell on his own and couldn't think of anything that he loved more than horror. So he began to create and sell his own merch under the brand name, cavity colors. According to Aaron, we're always on a quest down a path lined with glowing pumpkins seeking that exact same nostalgic feeling we all felt as a kid discovering our favorite things for the very first time. This inspiration spills over the items that we create for our brand. We're here to bring you the same feeling you get while watching a favorite monster movie after midnight are throwing on your favorite Halloween costume to go trick or treating cavity colors carries a ton of officially licensed horror, Phantom swag. They've got Michael Myers ghost face Godzilla, both alien and Predator just to name a very few. Seriously, they're partnered with like 50 franchises at least. And on June 14th, the brand is going to offer up some delicious Halloween treats says that's too bad. I'm not using Marty's Word. Some delicious Halloween treats. A brand new Rocky horror line of apparel featuring all of our faves. So far. Cavity has leaked one of their t-shirt designs as well as a pretty cool pair of jogging sweatpants. So the one shirt that we've got here, I'm usually not in for like big giant frank faces, but I might have to pick this one up. It's got like this stranger thing, Star Wars kind of like, you know, uh smash up cast shot aesthetic to it and I'm here for it. It is, it is bright, it is vibrant. It looks fucking great. Tim looks awesome. I might have to pick this one up. The sweatpants from the collection look pretty nifty. I enjoy clothes with words on them and things and that is what these put pants have got. Uh the left leg looks to say how do you do? And then an image of Frank Wild and untamed thing and then an image of Columbia. Oh Janet oh Brad. And then an image of Brad and Janet on inside of a nice heart. And then below all of it, the image has been taken from me. I I tried to paste it into, into paint but fucking windows computers. And then below that heart, it says give yourself over to absolute pleasure in like bloody lipsticked sort of uh writing that you may you may come to mind when you think of, I don't know what, what a dying cheerleader writes in makeup on the bathroom window and the double feature, it's the fonts, double feature. Oh, oh, ok. Are you, are you in charge of what comes to mind when people think of what a dying cheerleader might write in lipstick on the bathroom mirror because maybe they think double feature. So actually we just did the same thing and we're agreeing with each other. So, thanks Aaron. I enjoy agreeing with you. Listen, if I had a nickel for every dead cheerleader that I've had. So what's the other leg? Say your right leg? The right leg also has words the top. It's says madness. And then we have like a comic book cut out of Frank's eyes hauntingly looking at us. And below that, it's, it's madness takes its toll interspersed with that image of Frank's eyes, another image of lips inside of a heart. And then I think what are Columbia's legs? And below all of that, the Rocky Horror picture show in that same font. Are you gonna tell them? They're Frank's legs or am I? Are they Frank's legs? They're Frank's legs. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't wear shoes. So I don't know that in my realm. So I don't know these things, but from Megan showed me that is, it's actually Magenta's shoes that Frank is wearing, but I got you. You're right. Well, uh these are just a couple of samples of the fun shit that cavity is going to have for us this week. So um the apparel like this is slated to launch on Tuesday, June 14th at five PM Eastern. So it'll be out just a few days before this episode drops. So when you're listening to this, you can already go shopping. Um and, and man, it's, it's always pretty cool when a brand seems to kind of get our weird fandom. Uh Cavity seems pretty passionate about culty horror movies and we're excited to take a look at all the merch they got and report back to our listeners about the most fun things in the product line. We hope you guys will head over to their site too. Cavity colors dot com and check out all the great stuff that they have to offer us, I think with uh any piece of clothing, it's hard to tell just online through an image what it's gonna look like and how I'm gonna like it. But this stuff looks promising and I'm looking forward to perhaps buying those pants. I don't know if they were sweatpants. I'm not super certain, but maybe that shirt. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I like the art style on these sweatpants. It's kind of like a, like a lichen scene, pop art kind of thing. But without the little dots, you know, like it's got that, that like half Tony kind of color thing going on with it. It's pretty neat. I feel like they're kind of, the images are like awkwardly placed on the front of like the pant legs. But I also think that like awkward, bright colors are very in right now so I could see them doing very well. Is that too spicy of a taste? So there's some joke there about wanting, not wanting to dilute the color. Yes, I don't want to go there though. Uh Anyway, and with that, I think it's time we kick it on over to some community news. First up in community news, we've got a fun announcement about a historic Rocky theater that's getting a brand new makeover. The Plaza Theater is Atlanta's oldest operating and only independent cinema. The historic Art Deco theater has been a community staple since 1939 when it projected its first film. It first opened as a regular neighborhood cinema, but took a bit of a spicy turn back in the seventies when it became a home to burlesque acts and X rated movies. This lasted until the early eighties when it was totally right, innovated into a 1000 seat space and the balcony was turned into a second whole auditorium. This setup did pretty well for a while, but from the mid nineties through the mid two thousands, the cinema went into a pretty significant financial slump uh despite its brilliant decision to become a home to a Rocky cast in 2000 and the slump resulted in the space being sold in 2006. See, there's money to be made in Boobies and smut, they never should have brought it back to the G rated shit. Well, anyway, in 2006, the ownership changed, although the theater kept on the Rocky Cast, still showing our favorite movie every Friday night. At midnight. After the sale, the theater went nonprofit and doubled down on showing different kinds of culty sci fi movies. Godzilla Frankenstein Creatures from the Black Lagoon, that sort of thing. They also picked up screenings of the room when it was released. And uh Tommy Yo even came to see showings a few times in 2013. Management changed hands again and although the theater did keep its rocky cast, the changeover led to major tech upgrades. They switched over to digital projection, got some snazzy new seats and began incorporating lots of new films in their lineup to replace their previous culty showings. In 2017. The theater was purchased again this time by a guy named Christopher Escobar who happens to be the executive director of the Atlanta Film Society. Oh Fancy. Yeah. And of course, a guy like that did exactly what you'd expect. He revamped the theater to make it feel more like its original self and swap the screenings from modern back to culty. Honestly, it sounds like it never should have gone modern in the first place. A gorgeous old movie theater like that. Doesn't need to be playing Marvel movies or Detective Pikachu or whatever. So just this week, Christopher Exar announced that he had just signed a brand new 25 year lease on the plaza and plans to do some pretty major renovations to the theater. So this sounds like something pretty like exciting shit. In his recent press release, Chris mentioned that he and his team plan to add a rooftop patio bar, a new screen, a theater organ and best of all modify the stage to better accommodate their Rocky Horror live cast. Wow. Talk about hospitable to your friendly neighborhood cast. Congratulations guys. That is wonderful news. Yeah, these renovations are expected to cost somewhere in the vicinity of $4 million. Christopher hopes that these changes will allow the plaza to become the best version of the beautiful culty downtown cinema. It's been since the thirties. Well, muzzle top to the plaza's cast. Lips down on Dixie, you guys rock and this is amazing news for y'all. And I'd like to puffer this question to the group. If I may, we've been in our new space now since November. So just over six months, if the theater decided to renovate and asked what kind of upgrade we'd want, what would you tell them? And don't say a stage? That's too easy, easy. We all want a stage. Oh, I want a stage. Yeah. Shut up. I mean, first I'd ask why you need an organ in a theater that no, actually that actually sounds really cool. I hope it's super useful for a bunch of live events and all kinds of stuff that you do there. Honestly, in our current space, the only thing I'd ask for couple more power outlets, man, like give me some power outlets and give me like a direct feed like an audio feed to the booth that doesn't involve having to snake cables in and out of a small little projection window. Like those are my top two. Like give me them. Uh I could absolutely fucks with like a prop closet. That would be real nice if they could build us a little closet and maybe like a little green room off of our theater. Oh my God. How fucking wet am I even thinking about it? And uh if we could have a lighting grid too, that would be pretty Bolar. We got all these fancy lights and shit that we can't hang in our theater because it's too small. Give me a grid. Let me light the show properly or shit. If we're just making shit up at this point, a couple of Truss will do wonders, man. Just throw some goalposts up there. Oh I'll take that. Yeah, we got $4 million. What about you, Jacob? Oh I mean you guys said fucking everything. Uh I this isn't, I mean this lights. What I was thinking before Meg said it was lights. I've been to a few F N S shows. My lovely girlfriend Andrea, whom I love, I love you. Andrea is on F N S and I've been to a few of their shows and they have a lot of lights, they do a lot of dance sequences um which is pretty cool and the stage is always like, like like a seventies club, like you imagine with a disco ball going. So I think that would be pretty cool if you guys would like to read more about the plaza and its impending face lift. You can check out all the dates in our show notes and with that, uh you guys feeling a little, a little snacky. Feel a little Jackie, maybe a little itchy in my hand. My little little lefty is traveling down the hem of my pants. Uh oh my God, you guys, I can't believe it. I finally get to do a real jerk in it with Jacob. Sesh. Um Actually this week I've got um uh I've got uh shit. That's right. You shut your fucking face, old man. No, avoiding it this time. Oh, please help me out here sweetie. Why in God's name would I do that? All right. Jerking it with Jacob. And this week's topic is going to be something near and dear to my heart. Titties. Yes. Hey. Oh, for fuck's sake specifically Nell's titties. Hey, come on guys. Hey, don't rush. There will be plenty of time to come later. You've got a Yeah, I fucking hate both of you for. There were over 80 episodes we've been telling the world about Nell's boobies and might I add for over? I don't know how many years Nell has been telling the world about her boobies herself. But finally, I want to take a deep dive into the tatas behind the bra strap. If you will under the under wire behind the nipple Jacob this, this is why we don't actually let you do these. You, you understand, right? It's my segment and I want the story all about the girls, the twins man. Tell me about the twins. It's my money and I want it now. Yeah. Well, uh Laura Campbell was born in Sydney Australia in 1953. The daughter of a prominent newspaper columnist for the Sydney Telegraph. She was given the nickname Little Nell after the Charles Dickens character in the old curiosity shop. You went too far back, fast forward. Get to the good part, the part with the boobs. Um So Nell and her family moved to London in the early 19 seventies. She worked at a small boutique stall in London's Kensington market next door to another shop run by the then unknown Freddie Mercury. She was also busing plying her trade outside the theater where Jesus Christ superstar was playing. That's where Jim Sharman saw her. See you say words like plying her trade. But I know that just means lap dancing. You're really working me up here, Aaron. What are you doing? That mouth manly. My trade down my trade all over me, tap tap dancing with a T tap dancing, tap dancing all over my garage. I know it. I know it. Nell and Jim Sherman had met before when she was still in Sydney. Uh Jim and Nell got to talking and Nell told him that she had yet another job. Damn girl was hustling working as a soda jerk. Yeah, that's more like what I'm talking about a soda jerk. You know, Paris. I know, I, I know what you're getting at. Aaron, don't you worry, buddy. So she was also a soda jerk at a restaurant named Smalls where she would occasionally dance as she served the customers, Richard o'brien, Jim Sharman and Richard Hartley all came to see her when she was working. And well, that's how she got the part of Colombia, which Jim told Richard he had to write, including incorporating her tap dance into the time warp routine. I'm sorry. She was working as a soda jerk at a restaurant called Mas. And you're, you're telling me Erin that. No, not one bit of that is about boobies. Come on, I'm sorry, it's just right there. But whatever. Let's move on with the show. I guess if you want to deny the truth that at least involves bouncing, we're getting closer. But I feel like you're not here with me for this journey. I want more triple X and less phd if you're not going to play, I don't even know why we do this every week. Ok. Fine. So Rocky opens in 1973 and the reviews immediately recognize it as the sexiest show in town. Is that better in a 1974 review from later in the run, Peter Gordon writes that quote, the rights of passage gained through Frank's agency is a sexual spoof not unlike the plot in one of Mo's plays, the fleshy of it is a sign of our unrestrained times and that these days theater tends to exact its ounce of flesh. Oh man, you had me going there. It was all literary and moly era and then bam Mia Khalifa. Mhm Yeah. So much so that Richard o'brien had to on a number of occasions point out that Rocky was not a sex show. It was naughty, sexy and rude. Sure though I can see why many reviewers may have had it confused uh in its earliest renditions, Rocky Horror was more than a little unam of a bit of nudity. So I'm just imagining Richard like in a bar with, with maybe some buddies who came to see the show and like pleading for his life like guys. No, I know, I know there's a lot of titties. I know you. I know you can see boobies and there's, there's crotch and there's penis. Yes, but it's not about the sex God. That's just, that's real theater. You seriously, now we're talking, you, you often forget it. Right? Given the mainstream musical glitz that plays on stage these days. But when it was just a tacky little rock show playing at the theater upstairs, you were just as likely to have Tim Curry's crotch in your face as little Nell's boobs, Nell's Columbia costume. The original one was super low cut below her bust with her nipples rouged and peeking out over the top. Both her and Janet intentionally wore the smallest bras possible for floor show offering a very titillating glance at the actresses titillating. Uh and it was a look that unfortunately didn't last for the movie though. Nell did manage to sneak a wink at the audience twice in the film. Everyone's favorite peek a boob during freezing scene and of course, all throughout Floor Show the most worn out parts of my DVD because I come, I come on that part of the D V specifically where Nell shows her boobs. That is where I check off. We'll just, we'll just, we'll just end that after DVD. So it's little wonder that as Rocky found its audience first as a stage show that Nell and Columbia became kind of a de facto sex symbol within the piece. And meanwhile, Nell was building up a resume that would just cement her image as the Electric life of the party in 74 75. She appeared in the film Barry mckenzie holds his own. And Ken Russell's lists a mania. And in October of 75 Nell appeared with Richard o'brien in the stage show and they used to star in movies at the Soho theater in London. She plays Minnie Mouse in that one. Really? That's cute. Did she show her boobies? It's not a cute Minnie Mouse. Disney would have not been happy. Oh, so also in 1974 Nell was recruited as a guest vocalist on the single titled Tough Little Surfer Boy by a UK band called Truth and Beauty. This was produced by the same Rich Tea Boy productions that was formed with Richard o'brien. We talked about that at to back in episode 60 where we were talking about the stage show soundtrack, Truth and Beauty. This band only did one single and it was comprised of actors, Jonathan Kramer and Perry Bedin Kramer, who was according to Richard o'brien, the first choice to play Frank and Furter in the stage show before Tim Curry had even auditioned. And Perry Betton who appeared as a Transylvanian in the film. He was in shock treatment and he would go on to be like one of the longest running riff rafts in the state show's history, uh only surpassed as far as I know by Christian lover just a while back. So, yeah, normally I get all uppity that you haven't mentioned any Hooters for like three minutes, but I, I know you're a sneaky one a and I know you got a little something under the hood. You're about to pull one of your little, your little magic tricks. You know. Now I'm focusing on the, and the stories in the theater and then whoops out of your sleeve. There's the puppies. So I'll, I'll have some patience. Don't worry. It's ok. And I know what comes next. It's 1975. We're doing the swim. Yeah, Nell signed on to A and M records. They distributed albums from Ode Records. The same label that carried the movie soundtrack. The first featuring stilettos and lipstick and do the Swim, which are both co-written with Richard Hartley and Brian Thompson of Rocky Horror Fame with Hartley producing the album. And in November of 1975 Nell appeared on British Television's the London Weekend show. She sang stilettos and lipstick and during the closing credits performed do the Swim and we got, oh yes, we got more boobies so many more. So in an interview with rip it up dot com dot A U Nell had this to say she says, who would have thought that 40 years later, we'd still be talking about that too. That bathing suit that didn't fit properly. That blooper became a little cult itself. I look at that show now and it's so charming and I look like such a trooper. She is a trooper. 2008. Nell appeared on Abc Australia's *** and specs a music themed television quiz show where the famous do the swim performance came up again. She clarified the story even more saying that at the last minute she had borrowed a friend's bathing suit that was strapless and it kept falling down. I'm sure that's what happened. Now, I believe you won 100%. The host recalled that the clip had subsequently been shown on many of the television blooper shows from the seventies and eighties. In 1977 it was shown uncensored on the BBC blooper show. It'll be all right on the night and even appeared in the US on bloopers and practical jokes with Dick Clark. Holy crap, dude. I'm impressed. Listen, you think I didn't come prepared for boobies? I know a lot about them naughty pillows, right? Never mind. So as Rocky, the movie began to blow up in the US at the start of 1976 there was plenty of nell out there. Yeah. Uh but yeah, she appeared in a Streetcar named Desire, uh, censored scenes from King Kong and a one woman show. Stoop in the late seventies. She also continued acting in films, Sebastian and Summer of Secrets. In 1976 Journey among women in rock follies of 77 jubilee in 78 which we talked about on our last episode, right? Two back, I think. But yeah, go check that one out. So with the additional audience coming from Rocky Horror, her music career also saw a modest success. In 76. She released the sultry disco single Fever again on the B side with Do the Swim. And in 1976 she also released See You Around like a record, which is probably my personal favorite of her songs that had danced that cocktail Latin Way on the B side. Uh And again, both of these were produced by Richard Hartley. The combined momentum from her appearance on the London Weekend show and Rocky Horror's burgeoning cult following, triggered a renewed effort by A and M to promote the records when the uncensored blooper of do the swim aired in 77 with Rocky becoming an underground phenomenon, another round of releases of her songs hit record stores this time, it was in the form of a 1978 triple B side extended play album titled The musical World of Little now subtitled Aquatic Teenage Sex and squalor. It had do the swim and stilettos and lipstick and Dance that cocktail Latin Way. Also that year was a new pressing of Fever that had do the Swim on the B side. Both these albums were like super heavily imported in the US. They had like the picture sleeves and in special edition, you know, kind of packaging and they were sold all through every single Rocky Horror publication that you could put your hands on. And some of the most broadly distributed examples are the early official magazine that's the yellow one with Tim and Richard on the cover and the official poster magazine, the blue one with the Thrones scene on the cover. Both feature interviews with me, both were put out in 1979 in the second. Adam Sarges tells the story of Richard. So Lane Nell at Florida's second annual Rocky Horror anniversary celebration, Commemorating 104 weeks of sellout shows at the bro Cinema. I don't think I've ever heard of this. It was held at a roller skating rink with Adam taking the trio swimming earlier in the day and then while he and Richard were listening to the demo tapes, Richard had brought along of his new musical T Z and his work in progress songs from shock treatment. Sue Blane fussed with Riff's floor show shoe that was meant to be given away that evening to the costume contest winner. Meanwhile, Nell was busy rolling joints, some mixed with tobacco so she wouldn't have to bother later. After a flurry of fans at the roller skating rink, the stars watched the local cast put on a fantastic floor show though. Adam did recall seeing Richard o'brien being led away in the middle of the performance to the late room which don't get, don't, don't, don't go crazy. Nell Coyly explained later that there had simply been a snowstorm in there in blue. What more could a man ask for in October of 1979? Nell would again appear at a fan event. This time Rocky one in New York, which anyone who has listened to our test staycation panel will know was definitely not the actual first Rocky convention at the Halloween party that was held at Roseland Nell performed do the swim this time in a red one piece with the foresight to include straps that she later took off halfway through the performance. Uh This time with the foresight to include straps though, they didn't make much difference because later that night, she tapped along the Time Warp. So I, I made a joke. I, I don't know if we're gonna put the recording. I made a joke not knowing how this paragraph ended. I made a joke about her, put, using the straps but then taking them off because of course, she's gonna show her titties and then what, what, what, what do I find out later in that same paragraph? She, that literally is what happened. Yes. She took off the straps to show her titties later in the night. So, fucking hilarious stuff, guys. Goddamn though. They didn't make much difference because later that night, she tapped along to Time Warp and somehow managed to fall out despite the straps. I don't know if I should be impressed or concerned Jacob. Listen. Just so you all don't think I'm a creep just when it comes to Boobies. And that 2008 interview on that esteemed show, SPX and specs where Bell talks about her do the swim Gaff, the host wasn't able to show the actual clip. So instead he has one of the other guests recreate her performance and the guy strips down to a leopard one piece bathing suit. He climbs up on the desks and proceeds to repeatedly fall out of the swimsuit top. But before finishing the bit, he has a different kind of swimsuit malfunction causing the sensor to have to black bar his junk as it falls out the bottom of his swimsuit. The old Adam Jenk concerned it is. So Nell would go on to release one final record in 1980 titled Beauty queen. It was the theme to the documentary alternative Miss World that cataloged the 1978 beauty pageant of the same name. It featured both male and female contestants dressed in outrageous erotic and crazy outfits. The drag superstar Divine has a small cameo, but as a whole, the film just kind of drags. Pardon the pun. And of course, uh they're shocky where she played nurse an but I think we'll have to call it here. This has all been in good fun. We love you now and I hope that this whirlwind through Nell's career right after Rocky, gives all of you listeners out there a deeper understanding of the amazing disco ball beauty that the community embraced as our Zany and wonderful Columbia Little now. But of course, this is far from the end of Nell's career as we all know we've talked about this in prior episodes. After all of this transpires, she goes on to open her nightclub in Manhattan during the nineties. Um and she's fucking hella active in our community. She does all kinds of stuff on social media where she's got a cameo account. She's got an Instagram account that she's really, really involved in. She comes to all of the conventions, she really loves interacting with the fans and uh she's around, she's around. If you want to chat with her, if you want to fucking hit her up, slide into her D MS, pay her 25 bucks to make a cameo for you. Like she's here for that. She probably show you her boobies to this day with a smile on her face and I don't know if Nell is in on the loop on this one, but I am also creating and only fans write piece together from, you know, the deep gaffs and boobie showings of Nell has had over the years. Um So that is something to look forward to, to, I'm sure they'll get into her sphere and she'll add content there also. So that's something. Yeah, you guys can collab on that. Don't worry, I'm on it. That is absolutely not gonna happen. Uh Our lawyers tell us to clarify that real quick, but uh there you go. All you guys can stop writing in and asking us where to find the videos of nails. But boobs. Uh Nobody does that except I'm pretty sure Jacob from an alt account because it's all from the same email address that keeps sending updates on Barry Bostick's favorite beer. Anyway, they're linked in the show notes, Nell's boobs. That is, we all know that my uncle Bear Bear drinks, Fosters. It's Australian for beer just like Nell is Australian for dude. What the fuck Barry Bostwick did a Foster's beer commercial in Australia during the 19 eighties. But the tagline back then was, don't you just love it? Not Australian for beer still counts. And that's our show. We wanna thank nails boobies for being great, great. Um And as always, we like to thank our editor Aaron from Tennessee, dude, you're fucking awesome Aaron, you rock. And this week you got to listen to all the boobies talk. You sir are welcome. But, but, but honestly, no, thank you this, you know, you, you don't deserve, you deserve the praise, not me. So yeah, it's true. He deserves a praise. Not all of us. If anyone has a question, they'd like us to answer on air for our asks a question segment, some community news they'd like us to talk about or even a cool story to share with the community. We would love to include it in our show. Just head on over to our website Rocky talky podcast dot com and fill out our contact form to uh share with us. Tell us about it. We'll read about that. If you're enjoying Rocky Talkie, you know what to do, help us out by rating, reviewing and subscribing to the show. It makes the podcast more accessible to new listeners and that helps us to grow the show. And if you want even more Rocky talky content, check us out on Facebook, youtube, Instagram and tiktok all at Rocky Talkie Podcast. We'll talk to you next week. Bye bye, bye bye, Jacob. You were never doing Jackie ever again. Little Jacket right now. I've got an air of grievance um while we're on the topic of Little Nell, we did. Uh we had an episode where we talked about Little Nell's website a few months back and I, as you know, resident intern type person for Rocky Talky, um speck out the website and looked through it. There was a little, a little place to submit questions and it didn't, it didn't have any like information. It was just like if you, if you want have questions, put it here and there was a little bar and a little thing to kid enter and I, I was like, man, does, does, does this just go to Nell is if, is Nell just gonna read my question? I wouldn't that be fucking crazy. Um So I put something in and I was literally just like, hey, is, is this smell? Uh and it's been so many months and I've got nothing, nothing back. Not from Nell and not from a lackey that would be easy to hire and replace. Now, so that if you were entranced or thought you might get a response from your question on Little Nell's website. Well, I can tell you now, you will not. Maybe you should have asked a better question. What ac but you can answer. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Perhaps my question wasn't the greatest but the effort it takes to answer it is, you know, relative to how not great it was, you know, it's just a little. Yes. Yes. This is now Jacob or no, no, this is not. Now you moron. Well, we'll tag her in this episode and, uh, we'll see. Maybe she'll answer your question now. Maybe she'll get back to you. She'll have one of her lackeys. Well, I really appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, there will also be all sorts of celebrity photo ops here at Galaxy Con in Raleigh. There is going to be costume contests, video game tournaments, you know, just all the standard nerd convention fare. And of course, my bear. Bear will be there there for me to Google from five oh one ft. Fuck. Yes. Well, Mazel Tov to the plaza's cast. Lips down on Dixie, I believe. Oh, I thought that was like a saying like putting it all on red. But now I that's the name of the cast. Well, it's also a saying, lips down on Dixie till the night. If you guys would like to read more about the plaza and it's impending fucking shit. My fucking lips don't match what I want to say, dude, what the fuck Barry Bostwick did a Foster's beer commercial in Australia during the 19 eighties. But the tagline back then was, don't you just love it? Not Australian for beer? Yeah. Is the tagline now Australian for beer. Fosters Australian for beer. No. Give me, give me, give me the, give me the cap to the damn thing. It still counts. What am I saying? Still counts. It still count if you follow the conversation, I've been following the conversation. I'm saying. What me saying, Australian for beer. Yeah, because you, you had a funny line. It's Australian for beer just like for boobies and it wasn't the tagline back then. Still counts.
Hello to all you unconventional conventions. Welcome to Rocky Talkie. I'm Jacob.

I'm
Aaron and I'm all right guys. Now, before we get started with the show, we're gonna do the thing. We're gonna take a moment. Ask each other, how was your week? Did you get up to anything fun, Jacob. What were you up to this week?

Oh
. Oh boy. I was in a show this past weekend uh at the Duplex Club in downtown Manhattan. The show was of course a Rocky horror show with live vocals produced by who is known to some as Meg Beaver Hausen and to others as Meg Fierro and Aaron Tidwell and Will Remmers. Um It was a great show. Had a blast. Was there with a lot of my Rocky friends and I've been playing this game called Muck. It's a gag. I enjoy it. You should download it. It's free. Aaron Meg. How are y'all's

weeks
? Pretty good here. Pretty good. Obviously, a lot of scrambling for that uh that show that we had. Um I guess it's technically not Rocky. I've been picking up costume pieces for uh auditioning for R K O K. Just got a couple of those in the mail about ready to get out my sewing machine and, uh, go to town on some of those. I got pants that need him. I got lots of stuff to do there and, uh, getting all of my pieces in order for R K O pride coming up. Uh, we're gonna be Meg and I, along with a couple of other people are gonna be up at R K O uh for their pride parade in the big show that they're doing up there. Super excited for that next week. And uh yeah, that's, that's what I've been up to sweetie. How about you?

What
have I done? Well? Um ok, just this past week. Uh we got to hang out with one of our old friends that we haven't seen in a long time that man, Mike came to Manhattan to hang out with us. We got to have dinner with him and our friend Phil who's been on the show. Hi, Phil and a bunch of old school, New York City. Rocky hor cast members. It was a lot of fun. We went to a restaurant called John's on 12th Street right by our theater, which is apparently like a place where they used to go back when we were at this theater a million years ago. And then we got to have like a double date kind of with Mad Man and his new wife Jen. That was a lot of fun. And Yeah, we just got to hang and like, shoot the shit and talk about how everything was going with the cast. And sweetie, you and you and Madman nerd out a whole bunch over like rocky collectible stuff. That

was
absolutely, it was so much fun. It felt, it felt like sitting in his uh old apartment down downtown when he lived there. Uh just rifling through the boxes of Rocky stuff. It was so much fun to get to hang,

but
I couldn't believe it. It's been fucking six years since we saw him so long. So it was really, really nice to get to catch up and just hang like we used to fucking hang all the time and now he's been gone but he's back, he'll be back around. Yeah, it was, it was good. It was a fun time. All

right
. Uh Now that, that's out of the way, let's dive into our first segment first up in global News, I've got a date that's a fun update for you oldsters out there on the whereabouts of my bear bear,

dude
. We told you, you got to take those cameras out of his house. It's like eight different kinds of illegal.

Um
First of all, nobody is ever going to find those, they just never think to look there. Second of all, this isn't about any alleged cameras that may or may not exist. This is about Galaxy Con. It's about to return to its home. In Raley, North Carolina, I R L.

Oh
, damn. That's pretty neat. Those Galaxy Con events are usually online.

Raleigh
. It's Raleigh, North Carolina and yes, Galaxy Con is a festival of fandom featuring celebrities, artists, writers, entertainers, cosplayers and lots, lots more. They've been almost exclusively online since the Al Vodka. Although they were in Raleigh around this time last year, which was a big deal for the city after being shuttered for so long. Back in the summer of 2021 even Raleigh's mayor Mary Anne Baldwin got high over Galaxy Con stating that the convention quote represented the biggest annual event to return to our city after the pandemic. We are so thankful that this celebration of creativity and pop culture continues to call our city home and brings together local and far flung fans to experience Raleigh

the
2022 Galaxy Con will be held at the Ray La Convention Center from July 28 through the 31st. And we have one hell of a line up for all the nerds who attend. Some of the highlights include a Smallville reunion with the actors who played Clark Kent Lois Lane and Lex and Lionel plus William Shatner, A K A Captain Kirk and Brad Spiner who played data will be there for the Trekkies.

And
of course, my bear. Bear will be there there for me to from 501 ft across the convention center floor in the heart of Ray

Yes
. Yes. That too,

if
you're interested in learning more about the convention, maybe even buying yourself some tickets. There's tons of info about the guests, the events and all the other stuff that's going to be going down in Raleigh over at the website at Galaxy Con dot com. A full four day weekend VIP pass is currently available for the high, high cost of $325.

Jesus
. That's a lot for a convention. Oh,

yeah
. But in the best Disney fashion it comes with a fast pass which I assume means you get to cut the lines and shit. Plus you get like a swag bag and admission to all the con parties. So I mean that sounds like a good time. It's

still
a

lot
. Yeah, but I mean the, the non VIP four day passes for one of you broke ass plebs out there is significantly more reasonable $125. Does that make you feel better?

I
mean, kind of, but our con is five days and I heard a rumor that someone might be throwing a naked alien foam party in my hotel room. Does this con have a naked alien foam party? I don't, I don't think so.

There
are also one day passes available ranging from 30 to 60 bucks

is
the $30 ticket. The one for Thursday, that's at least a regular price, but it's still kind of a lot. I don't know, man. I can watch bear, bear in the comfort of my own Heidi hole at the back of my mom's linen closet for free. What? What? Huh? Who that man?

Well
, if, if you don't have a linen closet that somehow allows you visual access to the interior of Barry Bostick's home and would like to pay him a visit at Galaxy Con at Rala North Carolina. You can learn more about the con and shop for tickets all at their website. Again, that's Galaxy Con dot com, which we've got linked for you in our show notes,

Raleigh
, right. It's

all
fun and games here. Aaron. Oh, oh, it's Raleigh ha ha. But if we don't want to offend anyone, it is Ray and we respect the citizens of North Canada 100%

next
up in global news. Uh get your wallets out, gentlemen, because we've got some brand new, officially licensed Rocky Merch for you. And this time it's from a brand called Cavity Colors. Cavity Colors is a creepy apparel company that lets you make every day Halloween by creating collectible items that are just dripping in horror, nostalgia. Just like all of our listeners. The creators at Cavity Colors live for Halloween and horror all year long. And that's why their brand mission is to share their passion for all things spooky with each and every high quality item. They create

the
brand's creator, Aaron Crawford grew up on a steady diet of goosebumps books and metal music. He spent years doodling monsters and creepy shit, some of which he even posted to his myspace

account
. Oh man, I love that call back. Thank

you
. So after posting some of his art, Aaron was contacted by a local band who was in need of a T shirt designer. So he did what any good freelancer does. He taught himself Photoshop really fucking quick and started designing band merch, you know, T shirts, posters, CD packaging, that sort of thing in May of 2012, Aaron decided to start designing stuff to sell on his own and couldn't think of anything that he loved more than horror. So he began to create and sell his own merch under the brand name, cavity colors.

According
to Aaron, we're always on a quest down a path lined with glowing pumpkins seeking that exact same nostalgic feeling we all felt as a kid discovering our favorite things for the very first time. This inspiration spills over the items that we create for our brand. We're here to bring you the same feeling you get while watching a favorite monster movie after midnight are throwing on your favorite Halloween costume to go trick or

treating
cavity colors carries a ton of officially licensed horror, Phantom swag. They've got Michael Myers ghost face Godzilla, both alien and Predator just to name a very few. Seriously, they're partnered with like 50 franchises at least.

And
on June 14th, the brand is going to offer up some delicious Halloween treats says that's too bad. I'm not using Marty's Word. Some delicious Halloween treats. A brand new Rocky horror line of apparel featuring all of our faves. So far. Cavity has leaked one of their t-shirt designs as well as a pretty cool pair of jogging sweatpants. So the one shirt that we've got here, I'm usually not in for like big giant frank faces, but I might have to pick this one up. It's got like this stranger thing, Star Wars kind of like, you know, uh smash up cast shot aesthetic to it and I'm here for it. It is, it is bright, it is vibrant. It looks fucking great. Tim looks awesome. I might have to pick this one up. The

sweatpants
from the collection look pretty nifty. I enjoy clothes with words on them and things and that is what these put pants have got. Uh the left leg looks to say how do you do? And then an image of Frank Wild and untamed thing and then an image of Columbia. Oh Janet oh Brad. And then an image of Brad and Janet on inside of a nice heart. And then below all of it, the image has been taken from me.

I


I
tried to paste it into, into paint but fucking windows computers. And then below that heart, it says give yourself over to absolute pleasure in like bloody lipsticked sort of uh writing that you may you may come to mind when you think of, I don't know what, what a dying cheerleader writes in makeup on the bathroom window

and
the double feature, it's the fonts, double

feature
. Oh, oh, ok. Are you, are you in charge of what comes to mind when people think of what a dying cheerleader might write in lipstick on the bathroom mirror because maybe they think double feature. So actually we just did the same thing and we're agreeing with each other. So, thanks Aaron. I enjoy agreeing with you.

Listen
, if I had a nickel for every dead cheerleader that I've had. So what's the other leg? Say your

right
leg? The right leg also has words the top. It's says madness. And then we have like a comic book cut out of Frank's eyes hauntingly looking at us. And below that, it's, it's madness takes its toll interspersed with that image of Frank's eyes, another image of lips inside of a heart. And then I think what are Columbia's legs? And below all of that, the Rocky Horror picture show in that same font.

Are
you gonna tell them? They're Frank's legs or am I? Are they Frank's

legs
? They're Frank's legs. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't wear shoes. So I don't know that in my realm. So I don't know these things, but from Megan showed me that is, it's actually Magenta's shoes that Frank is wearing, but I got you.

You're
right. Well, uh these are just a couple of samples of the fun shit that cavity is going to have for us this week. So um the apparel like this is slated to launch on Tuesday, June 14th at five PM Eastern. So it'll be out just a few days before this episode drops. So when you're listening to this, you can already go shopping. Um and, and man, it's, it's always pretty cool when a brand seems to kind of get our weird fandom. Uh Cavity seems pretty passionate about culty horror movies and we're excited to take a look at all the merch they got and report back to our listeners about the most fun things in the product line. We hope you guys will head over to their site too. Cavity colors dot com and check out all the great stuff that they have to offer us,

I
think with uh any piece of clothing, it's hard to tell just online through an image what it's gonna look like and how I'm gonna like it. But this stuff looks promising and I'm looking forward to perhaps buying those pants. I don't know if they were sweatpants. I'm not super certain, but maybe that shirt. So, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah
. I, I like the art style on these sweatpants. It's kind of like a, like a lichen scene, pop art kind of thing. But without the little dots, you know, like it's got that, that like half Tony kind of color thing going on with it. It's pretty neat.

I
feel like they're kind of, the images are like awkwardly placed on the front of like the pant legs. But I also think that like awkward, bright colors are very in right now so I could see them doing very well. Is that too spicy

of
a taste? So there's some joke there about wanting, not wanting to dilute the color. Yes, I don't want to go there though.

Uh
Anyway,

and
with that, I think it's time we kick it on over to some community news. First up in community news, we've got a fun announcement about a historic Rocky theater that's getting a brand new makeover. The Plaza Theater is Atlanta's oldest operating and only independent cinema. The historic Art Deco theater has been a community staple since 1939 when it projected its first film. It first opened as a regular neighborhood cinema, but took a bit of a spicy turn back in the seventies when it became a home to burlesque acts and X rated movies. This lasted until the early eighties when it was totally right, innovated into a 1000 seat space and the balcony was turned into a second whole auditorium.

This
setup did pretty well for a while, but from the mid nineties through the mid two thousands, the cinema went into a pretty significant financial slump uh despite its brilliant decision to become a home to a Rocky cast in 2000 and the slump resulted in the space being sold in 2006.

See
, there's money to be made in Boobies and smut, they never should have brought it back to the G rated shit. Well,

anyway
, in 2006, the ownership changed, although the theater kept on the Rocky Cast, still showing our favorite movie every Friday night. At midnight. After the sale, the theater went nonprofit and doubled down on showing different kinds of culty sci fi movies. Godzilla Frankenstein Creatures from the Black Lagoon, that sort of thing. They also picked up screenings of the room when it was released. And uh Tommy Yo even came to see showings a few times

in
2013. Management changed hands again and although the theater did keep its rocky cast, the changeover led to major tech upgrades. They switched over to digital projection, got some snazzy new seats and began incorporating lots of new films in their lineup to replace their previous culty showings. In 2017. The theater was purchased again this time by a guy named Christopher Escobar who happens to be the executive director of the Atlanta Film Society. Oh

Fancy
.

Yeah
. And of course, a guy like that did exactly what you'd expect. He revamped the theater to make it feel more like its original self and swap the screenings from modern back to

culty
. Honestly, it sounds like it never should have gone modern in the first place. A gorgeous old movie theater like that. Doesn't need to be playing Marvel movies or Detective Pikachu or whatever.

So
just this week, Christopher Exar announced that he had just signed a brand new 25 year lease on the plaza and plans to do some pretty major renovations to the theater. So this sounds like something pretty like exciting shit. In his recent press release, Chris mentioned that he and his team plan to add a rooftop patio bar, a new screen, a theater organ and best of all modify the stage to better accommodate their Rocky Horror live cast. Wow. Talk

about
hospitable to your friendly neighborhood cast. Congratulations guys. That is wonderful news.

Yeah
, these renovations are expected to cost somewhere in the vicinity of $4 million. Christopher hopes that these changes will allow the plaza to become the best version of the beautiful culty downtown cinema. It's been since the thirties. Well, muzzle

top
to the plaza's cast. Lips down on Dixie, you guys rock and this is amazing news for y'all. And I'd like to puffer this question to the group. If I may, we've been in our new space now since November. So just over six months, if the theater decided to renovate and asked what kind of upgrade we'd want, what would you tell them? And don't say a stage? That's too easy, easy. We all want a stage. Oh, I want a stage. Yeah. Shut up.

I
mean, first I'd ask why you need an organ in a theater that no, actually that actually sounds really cool. I hope it's super useful for a bunch of live events and all kinds of stuff that you do there. Honestly, in our current space, the only thing I'd ask for couple more power outlets, man, like give me some power outlets and give me like a direct feed like an audio feed to the booth that doesn't involve having to snake cables in and out of a small little projection window. Like those are my top two. Like give me them.

Uh
I could absolutely fucks with like a prop closet. That would be real nice if they could build us a little closet and maybe like a little green room off of our theater. Oh my God. How fucking wet am I even thinking about it? And uh if we could have a lighting grid too, that would be pretty Bolar. We got all these fancy lights and shit that we can't hang in our theater because it's too small. Give me a grid. Let me light the show properly or

shit
. If we're just making shit up at this point, a couple of Truss will do wonders, man. Just throw some goalposts up there. Oh I'll take that.

Yeah
, we got $4 million. What about you, Jacob?

Oh
I mean you guys said fucking everything. Uh I this isn't, I mean this lights. What I was thinking before Meg said it was lights. I've been to a few F N S shows. My lovely girlfriend Andrea, whom I love, I love you. Andrea is on F N S and I've been to a few of their shows and they have a lot of lights, they do a lot of dance sequences um which is pretty cool and the stage is always like, like like a seventies club, like you imagine with a disco ball going. So I think that would be pretty cool if you guys would like to read more about the plaza and its impending face lift. You can check out all the dates in our show notes

and
with that, uh you guys feeling a little, a little snacky.

Feel
a little Jackie, maybe a little itchy in my hand. My little little lefty is traveling down the hem of my pants. Uh oh my God, you guys, I can't believe it. I finally get to do a real jerk in it with Jacob. Sesh.

Um
Actually this week I've got um uh I've got uh shit.

That's
right. You shut your fucking face, old man. No, avoiding it this time.

Oh
, please help me out here sweetie.

Why
in God's name would I do that?

All
right. Jerking it with Jacob. And this week's topic is going to be something near and dear to my heart. Titties. Yes.

Hey
. Oh, for fuck's

sake
specifically Nell's titties.

Hey
, come on guys.

Hey
, don't rush. There will be plenty of time to come later. You've got a Yeah,

I
fucking hate both of you for.

There
were over 80 episodes we've been telling the world about Nell's boobies and might I add for over? I don't know how many years Nell has been telling the world about her boobies herself. But finally, I want to take a deep dive into the tatas behind the bra strap. If you will under the under wire behind the nipple

Jacob
this, this is why we don't actually let you do these. You, you understand, right?

It's
my segment and I want the story all about the girls, the twins man. Tell me about the twins. It's

my
money and I want it now. Yeah. Well, uh Laura Campbell was born in Sydney Australia in 1953. The daughter of a prominent newspaper columnist for the Sydney Telegraph. She was given the nickname Little Nell after the Charles Dickens character in the old curiosity

shop
. You went too far back, fast forward. Get to the good part, the part with the boobs.

Um
So Nell and her family moved to London in the early 19 seventies. She worked at a small boutique stall in London's Kensington market next door to another shop run by the then unknown Freddie Mercury. She was also busing plying her trade outside the theater where Jesus Christ superstar was playing. That's where Jim Sharman saw her.

See
you say words like plying her trade. But I know that just means lap dancing. You're really working me up here, Aaron. What are you doing? That mouth

manly
. My trade down

my
trade all over me,

tap
tap dancing with a T tap dancing,

tap
dancing all over my garage. I know it. I know it.

Nell
and Jim Sherman had met before when she was still in Sydney. Uh Jim and Nell got to talking and Nell told him that she had yet another job. Damn girl was hustling working as a soda jerk.

Yeah
, that's more like what I'm talking about a

soda
jerk. You know, Paris.

I
know, I, I know what you're getting at. Aaron, don't you worry, buddy.

So
she was also a soda jerk at a restaurant named Smalls where she would occasionally dance as she served the customers, Richard o'brien, Jim Sharman and Richard Hartley all came to see her when she was working. And well, that's how she got the part of Colombia, which Jim told Richard he had to write, including incorporating her tap dance into the time warp routine.

I'm
sorry. She was working as a soda jerk at a restaurant called Mas. And you're, you're telling me Erin that. No, not one bit of that is about boobies. Come on, I'm sorry, it's just right there. But whatever. Let's move on with the show. I guess if you want to deny the truth that at least involves bouncing, we're getting closer. But I feel like you're not here with me for this journey. I want more triple X and less phd if you're not going to play, I don't even know why we do this every week.

Ok
. Fine. So Rocky opens in 1973 and the reviews immediately recognize it as the sexiest show in town. Is that better in a 1974 review from later in the run, Peter Gordon writes that quote, the rights of passage gained through Frank's agency is a sexual spoof not unlike the plot in one of Mo's plays, the fleshy of it is a sign of our unrestrained times and that these days theater tends to exact its ounce of flesh.

Oh
man, you had me going there. It was all literary and moly era and then bam Mia Khalifa.

Mhm
Yeah. So much so that Richard o'brien had to on a number of occasions point out that Rocky was not a sex show. It was naughty, sexy and rude. Sure though I can see why many reviewers may have had it confused uh in its earliest renditions, Rocky Horror was more than a little unam of a bit of nudity.

So
I'm just imagining Richard like in a bar with, with maybe some buddies who came to see the show and like pleading for his life like guys. No, I know, I know there's a lot of titties. I know you. I know you can see boobies and there's, there's crotch and there's penis. Yes, but it's not about the sex God. That's just, that's real theater. You seriously, now we're talking,

you
, you often forget it. Right? Given the mainstream musical glitz that plays on stage these days. But when it was just a tacky little rock show playing at the theater upstairs, you were just as likely to have Tim Curry's crotch in your face as little Nell's boobs, Nell's Columbia costume. The original one was super low cut below her bust with her nipples rouged and peeking out over the top. Both her and Janet intentionally wore the smallest bras possible for floor show offering a very titillating glance at the actresses

titillating
. Uh and it was a look that unfortunately didn't last for the movie though. Nell did manage to sneak a wink at the audience twice in the film. Everyone's favorite peek a boob during freezing scene and of course, all throughout Floor

Show
the most worn out parts of my DVD because I come, I come on that part of the D V specifically where Nell shows her boobs. That is where I check

off
. We'll just, we'll just, we'll just end that after DVD. So it's little wonder that as Rocky found its audience first as a stage show that Nell and Columbia became kind of a de facto sex symbol within the piece. And meanwhile, Nell was building up a resume that would just cement her image as the Electric life of the party

in
74 75. She appeared in the film Barry mckenzie holds his own. And Ken Russell's lists a mania. And in October of 75 Nell appeared with Richard o'brien in the stage show and they used to star in movies at the Soho theater in London.

She
plays Minnie Mouse in that one.

Really
? That's cute. Did she show her

boobies
? It's not a cute Minnie Mouse. Disney would have not been happy. Oh, so also in 1974 Nell was recruited as a guest vocalist on the single titled Tough Little Surfer Boy by a UK band called Truth and Beauty. This was produced by the same Rich Tea Boy productions that was formed with Richard o'brien. We talked about that at to back in episode 60 where we were talking about the stage show soundtrack, Truth and Beauty. This band only did one single and it was comprised of actors, Jonathan Kramer and Perry Bedin Kramer, who was according to Richard o'brien, the first choice to play Frank and Furter in the stage show before Tim Curry had even auditioned. And Perry Betton who appeared as a Transylvanian in the film. He was in shock treatment and he would go on to be like one of the longest running riff rafts in the state show's history, uh only surpassed as far as I know by Christian lover just a while back. So, yeah,

normally
I get all uppity that you haven't mentioned any Hooters for like three minutes, but I, I know you're a sneaky one a and I know you got a little something under the hood. You're about to pull one of your little, your little magic tricks. You know. Now I'm focusing on the, and the stories in the theater and then whoops out of your sleeve. There's the puppies. So I'll, I'll have some patience. Don't worry. It's ok. And I know what comes next. It's 1975. We're doing the swim.

Yeah
, Nell signed on to A and M records. They distributed albums from Ode Records. The same label that carried the movie soundtrack. The first featuring stilettos and lipstick and do the Swim, which are both co-written with Richard Hartley and Brian Thompson of Rocky Horror Fame with Hartley producing the album. And

in
November of 1975 Nell appeared on British Television's the London Weekend show. She sang stilettos and lipstick and during the closing credits performed do the Swim and we got, oh yes, we got more boobies so many more.

So
in an interview with rip it up dot com dot A U Nell had this to say she says, who would have thought that 40 years later, we'd still be talking about that too. That bathing suit that didn't fit properly. That blooper became a little cult itself. I look at that show now and it's so charming and I look like such a trooper. She

is
a trooper.

2008
. Nell appeared on Abc Australia's *** and specs a music themed television quiz show where the famous do the swim performance came up again. She clarified the story even more saying that at the last minute she had borrowed a friend's bathing suit that was strapless and it kept falling down. I'm sure that's what happened. Now, I believe you won 100%. The host recalled that the clip had subsequently been shown on many of the television blooper shows from the seventies and eighties. In 1977 it was shown uncensored on the BBC blooper show. It'll be all right on the night and even appeared in the US on bloopers and practical jokes with Dick Clark.

Holy
crap, dude. I'm impressed.

Listen
, you think I didn't come prepared for boobies? I know a lot about them naughty pillows, right?

Never
mind.

So
as Rocky, the movie began to blow up in the US at the start of 1976 there was plenty of nell out there. Yeah. Uh but yeah, she appeared in a Streetcar named Desire, uh, censored scenes from King Kong and a one woman show. Stoop in the late seventies. She also continued acting in films, Sebastian and Summer of Secrets. In 1976 Journey among women in rock follies of 77 jubilee in 78 which we talked about on our last episode, right?

Two
back, I think. But yeah, go check that one out. So with the additional audience coming from Rocky Horror, her music career also saw a modest success. In 76. She released the sultry disco single Fever again on the B side with Do the Swim. And in 1976 she also released See You Around like a record, which is probably my personal favorite of her songs that had danced that cocktail Latin Way on the B side. Uh And again, both of these were produced by Richard Hartley. The

combined
momentum from her appearance on the London Weekend show and Rocky Horror's burgeoning cult following, triggered a renewed effort by A and M to promote the records when the uncensored blooper of do the swim aired in 77 with Rocky becoming an underground phenomenon, another round of releases of her songs hit record stores

this
time, it was in the form of a 1978 triple B side extended play album titled The musical World of Little now subtitled Aquatic Teenage Sex and squalor. It had do the swim and stilettos and lipstick and Dance that cocktail Latin Way. Also that year was a new pressing of Fever that had do the Swim on the B side. Both these albums were like super heavily imported in the US. They had like the picture sleeves and in special edition, you know, kind of packaging and they were sold all through every single Rocky Horror publication that you could put your hands on. And some

of
the most broadly distributed examples are the early official magazine that's the yellow one with Tim and Richard on the cover and the official poster magazine, the blue one with the Thrones scene on the cover. Both feature interviews with me, both were put out in 1979 in the second. Adam Sarges tells the story of Richard. So Lane Nell at Florida's second annual Rocky Horror anniversary celebration, Commemorating 104 weeks of sellout shows at the bro Cinema. I don't think I've ever heard of this. It was held at a roller skating rink with Adam taking the trio swimming earlier in the day and then while he and Richard were listening to the demo tapes, Richard had brought along of his new musical T Z and his work in progress songs from shock treatment. Sue Blane fussed with Riff's floor show shoe that was meant to be given away that evening to the costume contest winner. Meanwhile, Nell was busy rolling joints, some mixed with tobacco so she wouldn't have to bother later. After a flurry of fans at the roller skating rink, the stars watched the local cast put on a fantastic floor

show
though. Adam did recall seeing Richard o'brien being led away in the middle of the performance to the late room which don't get, don't, don't, don't go crazy. Nell Coyly explained later that there had simply been a snowstorm in there

in
blue. What more could a man ask for

in
October of 1979? Nell would again appear at a fan event. This time Rocky one in New York, which anyone who has listened to our test staycation panel will know was definitely not the actual first Rocky convention

at
the Halloween party that was held at Roseland Nell performed do the swim this time in a red one piece with the foresight to include straps that she later took off halfway through the performance. Uh This time with the foresight to include straps though, they didn't make much difference because later that night, she tapped along the Time Warp. So I, I made a joke. I, I don't know if we're gonna put the recording. I made a joke not knowing how this paragraph ended. I made a joke about her, put, using the straps but then taking them off because of course, she's gonna show her titties and then what, what, what, what do I find out later in that same paragraph? She, that literally is what happened. Yes. She took off the straps to show her titties later in the night. So, fucking hilarious stuff, guys. Goddamn though. They didn't make much difference because later that night, she tapped along to Time Warp and somehow managed to fall out despite the straps. I don't

know
if I should be impressed or concerned Jacob.

Listen
. Just so you all don't think I'm a creep just when it comes to Boobies. And that 2008 interview on that esteemed show, SPX and specs where Bell talks about her do the swim Gaff, the host wasn't able to show the actual clip. So instead he has one of the other guests recreate her performance and the guy strips down to a leopard one piece bathing suit. He climbs up on the desks and proceeds to repeatedly fall out of the swimsuit top. But before finishing the bit, he has a different kind of swimsuit malfunction causing the sensor to have to black bar his junk as it falls out the bottom of his swimsuit. The

old
Adam Jenk concerned it is.

So
Nell would go on to release one final record in 1980 titled Beauty queen. It was the theme to the documentary alternative Miss World that cataloged the 1978 beauty pageant of the same name. It featured both male and female contestants dressed in outrageous erotic and crazy outfits. The drag superstar Divine has a small cameo, but as a whole, the film just kind of drags. Pardon the pun.

And
of course, uh they're shocky where she played nurse an but

I
think we'll have to call it here. This has all been in good fun. We love you now and I hope that this whirlwind through Nell's career right after Rocky, gives all of you listeners out there a deeper understanding of the amazing disco ball beauty that the community embraced as our Zany and wonderful Columbia Little now.

But
of course, this is far from the end of Nell's career as we all know we've talked about this in prior episodes. After all of this transpires, she goes on to open her nightclub in Manhattan during the nineties. Um and she's fucking hella active in our community. She does all kinds of stuff on social media where she's got a cameo account. She's got an Instagram account that she's really, really involved in. She comes to all of the conventions, she really loves interacting with the fans and uh she's around, she's around. If you want to chat with her, if you want to fucking hit her up, slide into her D MS, pay her 25 bucks to make a cameo for you. Like she's here for that. She probably show you her boobies to this day with a smile on her face and

I
don't know if Nell is in on the loop on this one, but I am also creating and only fans write piece together from, you know, the deep gaffs and boobie showings of Nell has had over the years. Um So that is something to look forward to, to, I'm sure they'll get into her sphere and she'll add content there also. So that's something. Yeah,

you
guys can collab on that.

Don't
worry, I'm on it.

That
is absolutely not gonna happen. Uh Our lawyers tell us to clarify that real quick, but uh there you go. All you guys can stop writing in and asking us where to find the videos of nails. But boobs.

Uh
Nobody does that except I'm pretty sure Jacob from an alt account because it's all from the same email address that keeps sending updates on Barry Bostick's favorite beer.

Anyway
, they're linked in the show notes, Nell's boobs. That is, we all know that my uncle Bear Bear drinks, Fosters. It's Australian for beer just like Nell is Australian for

dude
. What the fuck Barry Bostwick did a Foster's beer commercial in Australia during the 19 eighties. But the tagline back then was, don't you just love it? Not Australian for beer

still
counts. And that's our show. We wanna thank nails boobies

for
being great,

great
. Um And as always, we like to thank our editor Aaron from Tennessee, dude, you're fucking awesome Aaron, you rock. And this week you got to listen to all the boobies talk. You sir are welcome. But, but, but honestly, no, thank you this, you know, you, you don't deserve, you deserve the praise, not me. So

yeah
, it's true. He deserves a praise. Not all of us. If anyone has a question, they'd like us to answer on air for our asks a question segment, some community news they'd like us to talk about or even a cool story to share with the community. We would love to include it in our show. Just head on over to our website Rocky talky podcast dot com and fill out our contact form to uh share with us. Tell us about it. We'll read about

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. If you're enjoying Rocky Talkie, you know what to do, help us out by rating, reviewing and subscribing to the show. It makes the podcast more accessible to new listeners and that helps us to grow the show. And if you want even more Rocky talky content, check us out on Facebook, youtube, Instagram and tiktok all at Rocky Talkie Podcast. We'll

talk
to you next week. Bye bye,

bye
bye, Jacob. You were never doing Jackie ever again.

Little
Jacket right now.

I've
got an air of grievance um while we're on the topic of Little Nell, we did. Uh we had an episode where we talked about Little Nell's website a few months back and I, as you know, resident intern type person for Rocky Talky, um speck out the website and looked through it. There was a little, a little place to submit questions and it didn't, it didn't have any like information. It was just like if you, if you want have questions, put it here and there was a little bar and a little thing to kid enter and I, I was like, man, does, does, does this just go to Nell is if, is Nell just gonna read my question? I wouldn't that be fucking crazy. Um So I put something in and I was literally just like, hey, is, is this smell? Uh and it's been so many months and I've got nothing, nothing back. Not from Nell and not from a lackey that would be easy to hire and replace. Now, so that if you were entranced or thought you might get a response from your question on Little Nell's website. Well, I can tell you now, you will not.

Maybe
you should have asked a better question. What

ac
but you can answer. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Perhaps my question wasn't the greatest but the effort it takes to answer it is, you know, relative to how not great it was, you know, it's just a little. Yes. Yes. This is now Jacob or no, no, this is not. Now you moron.

Well
, we'll tag her in this episode and, uh, we'll see. Maybe she'll answer your question now. Maybe she'll get back to you. She'll have one of her lackeys.

Well
, I really appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah,

there
will also be all sorts of celebrity photo ops here at Galaxy Con in Raleigh. There is going to be costume contests, video game tournaments, you know, just all the standard nerd convention fare.

And
of course, my bear. Bear will be there there for me to Google from five oh one ft. Fuck. Yes. Well, Mazel Tov to the plaza's cast. Lips down on Dixie, I believe. Oh, I thought that was like a saying like putting it all on red. But now I that's the name of the cast. Well, it's also a saying,

lips


down
on Dixie till the night. If you guys would like to read more about the plaza and it's impending fucking shit. My fucking lips don't match what I want to say,

dude
, what the

fuck
Barry Bostwick did a Foster's beer commercial in Australia during the 19 eighties. But the tagline back then was, don't you just love it? Not Australian for beer?

Yeah
. Is the tagline now Australian for beer. Fosters

Australian
for beer. No. Give me, give me, give me the, give me the cap to the damn thing. It still counts.

What
am I saying? Still counts.

It
still count if you follow the conversation, I've been

following
the conversation. I'm saying. What me saying, Australian for beer.

Yeah
, because you, you had a funny line. It's Australian for beer just like

for
boobies

and
it wasn't the tagline back then. Still counts.